15 January 2006,07:43
Alemania también colaboró en la Guerra del Golfo
Hace tiempo saltó a la prensa el "escándalo" de la fragata española en el Golfo ayudando al USS Theodore Roosevelt, a pesar de que la prensa española no fue muy activa en su publicación. Bien, pues ahora ha salido también a la luz la participación de dos agentes secretos alemanes en Irak (vía Desde el exilio):

Schroeder Government Authorized Intelligence-Sharing on Iraq Jan. 13 (Bloomberg): The government of former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, which opposed the war against Iraq, authorized an exchange of intelligence information with the U.S.
on installations in the Middle Eastern country, a German government spokesman said today.
Two members of Germany’s Federal Intelligence Service, BND, shared information on civilian targets that were to be excluded from U.S. bombing raids, deputy government spokesman Thomas Steg told a regular press conference in Berlin. The installations included hospitals and embassies. It was the goal of Schroeder’s government that “there should be a continued information exchange'’ between the BND agents and their U.S. counterparts, Steg said. “It would be quixotic to assume that the fight against terrorism or other international dangers and challenges would be possible without an information exchange especially between friendly services.'’

O sea como bien dice el link:
Ejemplo:- “aquí los espías alemanes, en las coordinadas x/y se encuentra una escuela. Ahí no tiren bombas.”
-”o sea que en z/n no hay escuelas?”
-”no, en z/n no hay”
a los tres minutos no exisitía z/n.
That is:
"German Spies speaking, in the coordinates x/y we can see a school. Do not throw bombs over there.
-So, no schools in z/n?
-NO, no one there.
Three minutes later, no z/n".
El siguiente post trata de lo mismo:
By Charles Hawley in Berlin
German intelligence agents reportedly helped US forces target Saddam Hussein in an April 2003 Baghdad bombing raid that killed at least 12 people, contravening former chancellor Gerhard Schröder’s insistence that Germany was not involved in the war in Iraq.(...)
According to new revelations about the activities of Germany’s intelligence service Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND), the country was not nearly so removed from the US-led war efforts as Schröder liked to claim. German intelligence agents, according to reports in both the Süddeutsche Zeitung and in German public television, were active in Iraq during the entire war and even helped the United States choose bombing targets. BND spooks may even have delivered targeting assistance for the early April 2003 bombing in the wealthy Mansour district of Baghdad — a strike which was meant to vaporize Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein along with several top members of his regime. The attack left between 12 and 19 people dead — but not Saddam.

O sea, que fueron los alemanes los que posiblemente dieron la información con la que se bombardeó el rico distrito Mansour de Bagdad que intentó matar a Saddam pero que sólo consiguió matar entre 12 y 19 personas entre las que no se encontraba Saddam.

Bien, pues ¿saben dónde estaban escondidos estos dos peaso agentes? LE Figaro nos lo dice:

Le Bundesnachrichtendienst confirme que deux de ses membres sont restés à Bagdad après la fermeture de l'ambassade allemande le 17 mars 2003, sous couvert de la mission diplomatique française.

O sea, estaban bajo cubierto en la misión diplomática francesa (Francia, ¿qué estaba haciendo allí? ¿sabía lo que estaban haciendo? ¿les ayudó?). Y expone dos opciones:

a) o bien que simplemente estuvieran colaborando entre servicios secretos sin que Schröder lo supiera, en cuyo caso, habría que pedir cuentas a August Hanning, que era en esa época el patrón de BND y que acaba de ser nombrado Secretario de Estado del Ministerio del Interior en el Gobierno Merckel:

Ou bien les services secrets allemands ont poursuivi, dans une initiative corporatiste, la coopération avec leurs homologues américains.(...)Dans ce cas, des comptes seraient sans nul doute demandés à August Hanning, qui était à l'époque patron du BND et vient d'être nommé secrétaire d'Etat au ministère de l'Intérieur de la grande coalition d'Angela Merkel.

Or the German Secret Services have followed, un a corporativist initiative, the cooperation with their American homologues. (...) In this case, the accounts will be without doubt, demanded to August Hanning, that was the patron of BND at that time, and have been demanded Secretary of State in the Interior Ministry of the great coalition of Angela Merkel.

b) o bien, la cooperación estaba sancionada, expresamente o no, por el poder político, lo que constituiría un escándalo político de gran magnitud en el que estarían implicados Ernst Urhlau, coordinador de los servicios de la Cancillería y elegido presidente del BND hace 2 meses y Frank-Walter Steinmeier, el nuevo jefe de la diplomacia alemana, que era el Ministrp:

Dans le collimateur, il y aurait alors Ernst Uhrlau, coordinateur des services à la Chancellerie en 2003 et précisément président du BND depuis deux mois. Mais surtout Frank-Walter Steinmeier, le nouveau chef de la diplomatie allemande qui était au moment des faits ministre à la Chancellerie et bras droit de Gerhard Schröder.

In that moment, there was Ernst Uhlrlau, coordinator of the services at the Chancellor in 2003 and precisley presidnet of BND since two months ago. And above all, Frank Walter Steinmeier, the new Chief of the German Diplomacy that was at the moment of these facts the Minister of the Chancellor and right hand of Gerhard Schröder.

Seguiremos informando.

ACTUALIZACIÓN/UPDATE: leo en Davids Medienkritik lo siguiente:

Put away your Watergate knives. No scandal here. Move along people. Ok, so maybe the German intelligence service (known as the Bundesnachrichtendienst or BND) helped the United States select a bombing target here or there in 2003. But that doesn't mean a thing! It doesn't mean they broke their pledge to keep Germany out of Iraq. Case closed. Drop it!

That's the message published in a commentary currently on Germany's prominent state-run "tagesschau" news website. In the article, entitled "Two BND Agents Still Don't Make a War", author and ARD journalist Tobias Haeuser bends over backwards to downplay charges that the former Schroeder administration provided intelligence to the United States for the selection of targets during the Iraq War in 2003. He also unquestioningly accepts German Foreign Minister Steinmeier's (SPD) claim that the BND did not actively support American combat operations. (...)And naturally Mr. Haeuser quickly identifies the true culprit behind the entire scandal. You guessed it: The United States. He writes:

"Two agents of the German intelligence agency stayed in Baghdad during the Iraq War in 2002 and did their jobs. They collected information on the Iraq War and informed the German federal government about the course of combat operations. That is exactly their job. And they did that job: Foreign reconnaissance in Iraq, also during the war so that Germany could have a minimal degree of its own information on the course of the war. That is, in fact, the lesson from the false information from the US intelligence services on alleged weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. (...)

The USA needs two German Agents?

The image is really quite ridiculous that the USA, with the most modern electronic war machinery in the world, would be dependent on the help of two German BND agents for locating targets for bomb attacks in Baghdad. It is interesting, above all, where the speculation comes from that the BND supposedly actively helped the US military in the war. Of all places out of the USA, once again. When US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice came to Berlin a few weeks ago, the Washington Post published that the German government also supposedly knew about the illegal CIA flights and kidnappings. The plan worked, in Germany the discussion is only about the role of the German federal government and not about the real scandal: That the USA has people abducted and tortured.>

O sea, básicamente, este articulista sigue diciendo que el hecho de que 2 agentes alemanes ayudaran a USA no es causa suficiente para señalar que Alemania estuviera en la guerra. También acepta la explicación dada por el ahora Ministro de Exteriores alemán sin más preguntas. Así que ¿quién es el culpabla? Por supuesto, USA:

"El trabajo de los agentes alemanes es precisamente el de reunir tanta información como sea posible. Informaron entonces del curso de las operaciones de combate. Lo único que hacían era proveer a Alemania de su propia información. Y esto es una lección para las falsas informaciones que dio USA sobre las armas de destrucción masiva (¿?)...

Da una imagen un poco ridícula de USA el que la más importante maquinaria de guerra electrónica del mundo dependiera de dos agentes alemanes para localizar objetivos en Irak (hmm, ¿sabe algo sobre lo que es ocultar los objetivos con otros que no tienen nada que ver? hmm, ¿no hay que hacer ningún rabajo de campo?...)

Añade además que en el Washington Post se habló sobre la cooperación que en el tema de las torturas habían realizado el gobierno alemán, pero que no se habló de la realidad: que "los USA secuestraron y torturaron personas".

Ejem, ejem... O sea que hay que hablar de los USA (¡qué malos son!) pero no de la responsabilidad de los europeos en la política del "no digas nada, no hagas nada", aunque lo sabían. Lo que es más: parece que hay un acuerdo secreto entre la UE y USA sobre el tránisto por las instalaciones europeas de los transportes de "criminales":

"A previously unpublished document shows that the European Union secretly agreed in 2003 to let the United States use transit facilities on European soil to transport "criminals."The revelation supports U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's strong suggestion last week that so-called "rendition" flights were undertaken with the approval of other governments, despite denials by European officials.

Como se ve en esta noticia:

Ms Rice also moved to deflect some of the anger that has been directed against the Bush administration, suggesting that European governments had greater knowledge than they were willing to publicly acknowledge of the controversial practice, noting that US intelligence operations had respected the "sovereignty of other countries".

Y la oposición ya está pidiendo la dimisión del Ministro de Exteriores Steinmeier.

German opposition politicians stepped up pressure on Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier on Saturday, saying he should resign if German secret agents were shown to have helped the United States in its invasion of Iraq.

 
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